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Interview: Amb. Ryan Crocker warns against war fatigue in Afghanistan

Ryan Crocker, US ambassador to Afghanistan, sees progress amid an extended 'rough' patch in relations. He also cautions against quitting Afghanistan too soon, citing Al Qaeda. 'If we decide we're tired, ... they'll be back.'

It鈥檚 not news to anyone that the United States and the international community have recently experienced some rough weeks in Afghanistan.

But if there鈥檚 a silver lining to the clouds hanging over the American-led war effort here, it鈥檚 that the terrible recent events 鈥� the unintentional burning of Qurans by American forces and ensuing civil unrest, the revenge killings of US and other international forces by 鈥渇riendly鈥� Afghan soldiers, and the horrific murders of 17 Afghan villagers allegedly committed by a US Army sergeant 鈥� have provided a measure of Afghanistan鈥檚 progress, and of the importance of a continuing international commitment.

That鈥檚 the message of the US ambassador to Kabul, Ryan Crocker, who counters reports of doom for the US mission in Afghanistan with evidence of progress 鈥� even as he warns of the consequences for America鈥檚 national security of giving in to war fatigue and pulling out.

鈥淲e鈥檝e had a rough fall, a rough winter 鈥� and we are having a rough spring,鈥� acknowledges Ambassador Crocker, who then shifts focus to two signs of a stronger, more mature Afghanistan as revealed by the recent trial by fire.

First, the Afghan security forces that NATO and other international partners are training to take over command of the country鈥檚 security kept control of an explosive domestic climate after the Quran burnings, protecting both Afghans and foreign forces with minimal loss of life.

鈥淚t was Afghan security forces who stepped up鈥�. They protected Afghan lives, and they protected American lives [and] the lives of others from the international community,鈥� he says, noting that 30 Afghans were reported to have died in the days of unrest. 鈥淭hat鈥檚 not too darn bad given the volatility of the situation.鈥�

Second, Crocker underscores the fact that, despite some turbulence, the US-Afghanistan negotiations toward reaching a Strategic Partnership Agreement 鈥� the framework that will determine the US military role in Afghanistan after 2014 鈥� weathered the trying events and are moving forward.

鈥淲e鈥檙e making very significant headway鈥� in negotiations, he says, 鈥渁nd we鈥檙e doing it under particularly difficult conditions.鈥�

Crocker says such signposts of progress should encourage both the US and the international community to muster the 鈥渟trategic patience鈥� that will be necessary for sticking with a country that may seem to be progressing slowly 鈥� but which to abandon would be to open the way to potential recurrences of the 9/11 tragedy.

The two countries have already settled the thorny issue of the conditions for handing over some 3,000 detainees in US custody to Afghan authority, while the question of night raids by foreign forces is still under discussion.

The night raids 鈥� troops entering sleeping villages to ferret out insurgents and suspected terrorists 鈥� are particularly unpopular among Afghans, and they raise the ire of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who considers them a stab at Afghan sovereignty. But US military commanders consider the tactic an essential tool in the anti-Taliban effort, and the US insists on the ability to rely on the raids in the counterterrorism efforts it wants to continue after the international combat role ends in December 2014.

Some US and international military officials hint that an accord on night raids is likely, perhaps by assuaging Mr. Karzai鈥檚 sovereignty concerns with a provision requiring a warrant from an Afghan judge.

Crocker calls the Strategic Partnership Agreement, or SPA, 鈥渁 powerful signal to the Taliban鈥� that the international community will remain committed to Afghanistan into the future.

What the Taliban need to understand, he says, is that 鈥渢his isn鈥檛 going to be about holding out until 2014. It鈥檚 you getting killed,鈥� he says, 鈥渙r dying of old age and your sons facing the prospect of having to fight a war.鈥�

Others say the US SPA will be a reassuring sign to the international community and will help head off the 鈥渞ush to the exits鈥� that President Obama has warned against.聽

The strategic partnership negotiations are just one example of what Crocker calls the 鈥渞eally really hard鈥� process of helping a country like Afghanistan remake itself. He might add expensive, too, although he notes that whatever financial commitment the US makes to Afghanistan in the years after the formal end of the combat mission will pale in comparison to the $12 billion a year the US now spends.

But if Americans are tempted by the siren of a complete pullout from Afghanistan, Crocker says they need to remember the 9/11 attacks and Al Qaeda鈥檚 command center that brought the US here in the first place.

鈥淚f we decide we鈥檙e tired 鈥� they鈥檒l be back,鈥� he says, referring to Al Qaeda. 鈥淲e know what they did once. They haven鈥檛 gotten any kinder or gentler in the decade.鈥�

Crocker 鈥� who has the 鈥渦nique鈥� perspective of having returned to Afghanistan after a first stint as ambassador in 2002 following the fall of the Taliban regime 鈥� says the country鈥檚 progress is impressive but not irreversible, and requires an international commitment to sustain it.

Continuing improvements in the Afghan National Army and national police are one element. The Afghan security forces, which are now the primary providers of security to about half the country, should be able to expand to providing 鈥渋mmediate security鈥� to about 75 percent of Afghans by midsummer, Crocker says.

Other encouraging factors, he adds, are rising education rates, falling infant and maternal mortality rates in one of the world鈥檚 poorest countries, development of a professional class of young leaders, and prospects for impressive economic gains from unexploited natural resources.

He also points to expanded women鈥檚 rights, which he cites as a key priority for the US. Noting that some Afghan women have expressed fears of a rollback of women鈥檚 advances in the event of a weakened international commitment, Crocker says neither young Afghans nor the US are about to let that happen.

鈥淚 know what my boss thinks about this,鈥� says Crocker, referring to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton鈥檚 outspoken commitment to advancing Afghan women鈥檚 rights. But he also says the female university students he meets with here would never accept a reversion to the past. 鈥淭hey鈥檙e not going to be put back in a burkha, believe me,鈥� he says.

Crocker offers a modest definition of the Afghanistan he believes should be the realistic goal of Afghans and the international community: 鈥渁 basically secure, basically stable, basically democratic country that can look after its own interests.鈥�

And he says Afghanistan has the advantage of a 鈥減ost-9/11, post-Taliban generation鈥� that is better-educated, and that knows the promise of freedom and democratic governance. 鈥淭here鈥檚 never been a generation like that in Afghanistan,鈥� he says.

But he also warns that this new Afghanistan, which lives with the pull of old ways, has to know the world is not turning its back. 鈥淚f the Afghans think we鈥檙e done, that we鈥檙e pulling pitch,鈥� he says, 鈥渢hey鈥檒l revert to old tendencies.鈥�