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Hillary who? Joe Biden says he still dreams of becoming president.

Everyone knows Hillary Clinton would be the presumptive Democratic front-runner for president in 2016. But Joe Biden, in a new interview, doesn't sound like he's ready to concede.

Vice President Joe Biden and former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, seen here in Washington earlier this year, could be rivals during the next Democratic presidential primary season.

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July 18, 2013

Lost amid the endless banter about Hillary Rodham Clinton鈥檚 White House intentions is the still real possibility that Vice President Joe Biden will toss his Phillies cap into the ring.

Mr. Biden, a two-time White House candidate, has not shied away from speculation that he鈥檒l run. After serving in the Senate for more than three decades and now with a second term as President Obama鈥檚 No. 2 under his belt, he 鈥 like Ms. Clinton 鈥 has paid some dues. Still, the former secretary of State is the hot topic 鈥 and many in the chattering class hold the assumption that if she moves forward (as she seems to be), he鈥檒l politely back off.

The thinking goes something like this: The Clintons have the machine, the power, the influence. And she鈥檚 earned it, personally, professionally. There鈥檚 still that glass ceiling just so many cracks from being smashed clear though, and it鈥檚 her chance, finally, to make history. Meanwhile, Biden is just Biden, always a few words from misstatement, the back-slapping, aviator-clad, behind-the-scenes workhorse isn鈥檛 really primed, even after all these years, to hold the top job.

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But not so fast.

"I can die a happy man never having been president of the United States of America," Biden, 70, says in making the rounds Thursday. "But it doesn't mean I won't run."

No deference in those words. He tells GQ he鈥檒l make his own calculation.

"The judgment I'll make is, first of all, am I still as full of as much energy as I have now 鈥 do I feel this?" he said. "Number two, do I think I'm the best person in the position to move the ball? And, you know, we'll see where the hell I am.

"And by the way, if you come in the office, I have two portraits hanging 鈥 one of Jefferson, one of Adams. Both vice presidents who became presidents." He told the magazine that he likes to look at their satisfied expressions. "I joke to myself, I wonder what their portraits looked like when they were vice presidents."

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This does not sound like a man eager to step aside for a potentially history-making Clinton candidacy. Oh, how the Democratic establishment must vacillate between glee at the prospect of an easy route to the nomination for Clinton (especially with the GOP still in a post-2012 state of disunity and lacking real leadership) and terror at the thought of a Clinton/Biden faceoff, which is bound to draw into the contest more and younger hopefuls 鈥 namely New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Maryland Gov. Martin O鈥橫alley, among other prospects. It would be a cluster 鈥 not uncommon, of course, for an open primary season, but unnecessary given the powerhouse potential in Clinton.

Easy would be nice for those Democrats still be smarting from the protracted 2008 nomination fight between Mr. Obama and Clinton. Another battle would be a bummer for the party when the Democrats are 鈥 assuming the economy doesn鈥檛 totally tank 鈥 nicely positioned to run strong in 2016.

Biden has held a dynamic portfolio as vice president, bucking the historical knock on the job that it鈥檚 the worst in Washington. With Obama鈥檚 blessing, he has handled fiscal issues (including the Economic Recovery Act), had a major role in foreign policy (the Iraq handover, in particular), and managed 鈥 though unsuccessfully 鈥 the White House鈥檚 push for more expansive background checks for gun purchases.

And Biden hasn鈥檛 been afraid to independent of where the White House might be positioned 鈥 remember that he got out front of Obama on the gay marriage issue, emphatically weighing in with his support.

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If Clinton opts against a presidential campaign, surely Biden becomes the default front-runner. Except no matter the shape of the contest, one in, one out, or both vying, they each risk looking more like the past than the future. Already, the Republicans have toyed with a narrative about Clinton that ; the same could be said for Biden.

Both Democrats have long records to defend, too. And in Biden鈥檚 case, his gaffes, including , which sank his 1988 campaign, could come back to haunt him. He has also certainly, as everyone knows, been .

But among the establishment in Washington 鈥 and this is one key reason why Obama selected Biden as his running mate 鈥 the vice president has bipartisan street cred and long and intimate relationships to mine while governing. In a polarized capital city and with national opinion of Congress at historic lows, that experience 鈥 a throwback to an earlier time 鈥 is a worthwhile and sellable credential.

"Joe Biden doesn't have a mean bone in his body," says Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican, in the GQ piece. "He's unique from the day he was elected before he was 30 years old. He's unique in that he's had some role in every major national-security crisis that his nation has faced in the last thirty-five years. I don't know anyone like him in the U.S. Senate. Look at the number of times he's been able to conclude agreements. I would say he's been the most impactful vice president that I've known 鈥 certainly in modern times."

And that includes Biden鈥檚 predecessor, Dick Cheney, who hails from Senator McCain鈥檚 own party and is widely viewed to have been deeply influential, domineering even, when President George W. Bush held office.

Biden reminds us in the GQ piece that, as we watch the Clinton faithful establish an organizational apparatus fit for a candidate, he isn鈥檛 ready yet to fold his tent. In fact, the profile, which includes a whirlwind tour of Biden鈥檚 childhood haunts in Delaware, is a long romp through lovable Biden turf. He鈥檚 just a regular guy! And he鈥檚 smart, not a cartoon, he seems to plead, over cheesesteaks.

The piece dubs him 鈥渢he most misunderstood man in Washington.鈥

Understand this, though. When Biden addressed the Iowa Inauguration Ball in January, he . What he said drew laughter 鈥 but applause, too 鈥 from Democrats from this first-in-the-nation caucus state.

"I'm proud to be president of the United States," he said before correcting himself.