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Pelosi: Most lawmakers unaware of spying.

NEWSCOM

April 22, 2009

As House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi is briefed on many of the nation鈥檚 most closely held secrets.

But at a morning meeting with reporters Wednesday, Speaker Pelosi talked about the challenges faced by rank and file members of congressional committees supervising intelligence activities.聽 The issue is front and center given the raging debate over newly disclosed details about interrogation techniques approved by the Bush administration Justice Department.

Missing a lot

"When I was an ordinary member of the intelligence committee, I thought I was being briefed,鈥 Pelosi said at the Monitor-sponsored gathering in her ornate conference room on the second floor of the Capitol. 鈥淯ntil I became the ranking member, I didn鈥檛 really know there was so much more that was going on that members of the intelligence committee really did not have a clue about because it was confined to only the chair and ranking member in the House and in the Senate.聽And you could not share any of that information.鈥

Even when a member of Congress is fully briefed, 鈥測ou can鈥檛 talk about it to anybody and sometimes not even your lead staff person because that person is not allowed in the room.聽And worse than that, you cannot share it with other members.聽So I think the process would be much more wholesome the more members of the intelligence committee have access,鈥 to a full range of information, the Speaker said.

Opening up a bit

There has been some progress, she said.聽鈥淣ow they have opened it up a little bit but not to my satisfaction in terms of decisions that have to be made by this committee without the full strength of information as to what is actually going on.鈥

The Speaker鈥檚 criticism was echoed by Vicki Divoll, general counsel of the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2002 and a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) lawyer. She was kept in the dark about the controversial interrogation techniques which recently have been revealed.聽Ms. Divoll told the New York Times that due to restricted congressional briefings, 鈥淭he very programs that are among the most risky and controversial, and that therefore should get the greatest congressional oversight, in fact get the least.鈥