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When it comes to former President Donald Trump, Ronna McDaniel is adamant about one thing: 鈥淚f he left the party, Republicans would lose.鈥�

鈥淗e has built our party,鈥� the Republican National Committee chair told reporters at a breakfast Thursday hosted by 海角大神. 鈥淗e has added a new base. We鈥檝e become a working-class party. I saw it in my home state of Michigan.鈥�

That former President Trump鈥檚 status as a Republican is even an issue might seem odd, as he appears to be seriously considering another run for the Oval Office in 2024 as a Republican. But the release of a new book this week by Jonathan Karl of ABC News has revived discussion of Mr. Trump鈥檚 party loyalty and his reaction to losing reelection.听听

Mr. Karl wrote that on his final day in office, Mr. Trump told Chairwoman McDaniel that he was leaving the GOP and creating his own party. In response, Republican leaders threatened to stop paying the legal bills incurred during post-election challenges and open up access to an email list of 40 million Trump supporters, according to Mr. Karl鈥檚 sources.听

鈥淭his is false,鈥� Ms. McDaniel said Thursday, declining to elaborate further.听

Despite the reported clash, Ms. McDaniel鈥檚 good working relationship with Mr. Trump is well-documented. It goes back to 2016, when she was instrumental in helping him unexpectedly win Michigan 鈥� a key electoral battleground 鈥� as state party chair.

Soon, President-elect Trump recommended her as chair of the Republican National Committee (RNC), ensuring her election by party officials in early 2017, and every two years since.听

Ms. McDaniel acknowledges that Joe Biden is the president, despite Mr. Trump鈥檚 continued resistance to the idea. But she hedges on whether his election was legitimate, despite the certification of results in the states and by Congress on Jan. 6.

鈥淧ainfully, Joe Biden won the election,鈥� she said. 鈥淚 mean, he鈥檚 the president, of course. It鈥檚 very painful to watch. I think there were lots of problems with the election. And I think it needs to be looked at. But yeah, he鈥檚 the president.鈥澨�

Following are more excerpts from the Monitor Breakfast with Ms. McDaniel, lightly edited for clarity.听

Do you still consider Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney a Republican, following her state party鈥檚 vote last weekend to no longer recognize her as a party member? She has become a vocal critic of Mr. Trump, lost her GOP leadership position in Congress, and faces a vigorous primary challenge for her House seat next year.听

Obviously, she鈥檚 still a Republican. But I get from a state party standpoint, when you have a congressperson or a senator who鈥檚 not supporting your state party, who is not talking about electing Republicans up and down the ballot.听

The state party is the most grassroots body that a state has. These are people who are running in their district committee and they鈥檙e going to their county convention and they鈥檙e getting on their state committee and they really represent where the party is in their state. So that was their choice to do that. And then the voters will make a choice in the primary in Wyoming.听

Do you agree with former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican, that the GOP has to move beyond Mr. Trump?听

Every Republican right now should be talking about 2022, and that鈥檚 where I am as the Republican Party chair. I鈥檓 not talking about anything else other than what Biden is doing to destroy our country: high gas prices, an open border, an opioid crisis. We just saw a hundred thousand people died last year [from drug overdoses]. That correlates with a massive influx of opioids coming across our border.听

Fellow Michigander Fred Upton, a Republican congressman, received a death threat over his vote for President Biden鈥檚 infrastructure bill. This week, GOP Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona was censured and removed from his House committees over a violent video targeting a female member of Congress and Mr. Biden.听What can be done to restore a sense of comity in American politics?听

And there was [California Democratic Rep.] , if you see them form a crowd, get in their face. And there were many instances of Democrats saying things like that who, by the way, didn鈥檛 get censured. Then there鈥檚 a bomb in front of the RNC, and the [Democratic National Committee], too, so I鈥檓 very against it.

Social media is a big part of it. I think, you know, it鈥檚 hard for anybody. I don鈥檛 know the answer to that. I wish I did. It鈥檚 hard to be on social media for anybody. Anybody who looks at their comments is probably nicer to the Democrats on Twitter than Republicans.听

It鈥檚 nasty. I鈥檝e had death threats. We鈥檝e had to have security. I don鈥檛 always publicize that, but we鈥檝e all had moments right now in this public sphere.听

When did you get death threats?听

I turned it over to the FBI, so I鈥檓 not going to share it. But it was a pretty graphic image sent to my home address, in the mail. I think the person was unwell, because he put his address on it. It was pretty early on when I started [as RNC chair.]

There are several Republican candidates for Senate 鈥� Sean Parnell in Pennsylvania, Herschel Walker in Georgia, Eric Greitens in Missouri 鈥� contending with serious accusations of violence against women. Are you concerned that that hurts the party鈥檚 brand?

Well, obviously, you take domestic violence very seriously, so if there were criminal charges or if that got pursued, we would look at that very seriously. But it鈥檚 going to be up to the voters to decide, and [the candidates] have to make their case and tell their story.

How do you see Mr. Trump鈥檚 role in next year鈥檚 midterm elections?听

I鈥檝e said all along, Trump鈥檚 going to be critical in turning out voters in the midterms, and he鈥檚 a huge factor in our party. If you look at his popularity, if you look at the polls, they鈥檙e going to be looking to him. And there鈥檚 going to be other leaders in our party, too, that are going to help. But it鈥檚 going to come down to the candidate connecting with the voter on the issues that matter to them. That鈥檚 ultimately what it鈥檚 going to be. And we have great issues to run on right now.

Any chance you鈥檒l jump into the Michigan governor鈥檚 race next year? After all, you come from a storied political family: Grandfather George Romney was governor of Michigan and Uncle Mitt Romney is a senator from Utah. Both your mother, Ronna Romney, and grandmother Lenore Romney also ran for office.听

There is zero chance I will be jumping into the Michigan governor鈥檚 race.

The C-SPAN video of the breakfast can be viewed .