Wall Street, wary but expectant, awaits debt ceiling deal from D.C.
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A US government default on national debt? That鈥檚 not what Wall Street is expecting.
While the debt ceiling negotiations continue in Washington, many Wall Street money managers simply don鈥檛 believe that Uncle Sam will not meet his obligations. Yes, the dragged-out drama may produce some sweaty palms in America's financial capital and stocks may have moments of weakness 鈥 as they did Friday, when a skittish Dow Jones Industrial Average was down about 30 points at midafternoon. But the notion that the US Treasury would not pay its bills after Aug. 2 is almost inconceivable to Wall Street.
In Congress, 鈥渢hey may go to the 11th hour, 59th minute, 59th second, and they probably will, because that is the way the system works,鈥 says David Kotok, chairman of the money management firm Cumberland Advisors in Vineland, N.J. 鈥淏ut we are not going to have government default.鈥
The 鈥渘o default鈥 crowd is the 鈥渃onsensus view鈥 among financial movers and shakers, says Pete Davis, who advises Wall Street firms on the ins and outs of Washington politics. However, he says, 鈥淲hen you talk about all the details [of a prospective debt-deficit deal] 鈥 which are pretty problematic, unresolved, and contradictory 鈥 it becomes a lot less clear.鈥
The details may be unclear, but many money managers say they can predict how it will all turn out.
Typical is Jeffrey Kleintop, chief market strategist at LPL Financial in Boston. His firm鈥檚 鈥渂ase case鈥 is for the Congress and President Obama to agree to reduce the US budget deficit by $1 trillion to $2 trillion over the next 10 years, says Mr. Kleintop. 鈥淭hey don鈥檛 address entitlements or any tax increases but kick those down the road to the next election.鈥
Congress and Mr. Obama can鈥檛 kick the can down the road too far because on Thursday Standard & Poor鈥檚, the debt rating agency, said it will lower the US government鈥檚 AAA rating unless lawmakers, in addition to simply raising the debt ceiling, make a 鈥渃redible鈥 effort to reduce the size of the US budget deficit. S&P says the odds of the US getting its top-rank rating lowered are 50-50. Any reduction in the US government鈥檚 debt rating would be expensive: Mr. Davis estimates it would cost taxpayers about $64 billion more a year in interest payments.
That鈥檚 one reason Mr. Kleintop would like to see Congress tackle the cost of entitlement programs, such as Medicare and Social Security. 鈥淎 $1 trillion to $2 trillion cut won鈥檛 do it,鈥 he says.
However, whether the government will default is the No. 1 question being asked by the firm鈥檚 advisers in the field and its clients, he says.
鈥淲e鈥檙e telling them it鈥檚 in no one鈥檚 interest to default,鈥 Kleintop says.
Doug Roberts, director of research at Channel Capital Research in Shrewsbury, N.J., says it鈥檚 possible that the Treasury could go into 鈥渢echnical default,鈥 but he reasons that, within days of a default, some kind of measure will clear Congress that will 鈥渒ick the can down the road鈥 but allow the national debt ceiling to rise.
Mr. Roberts, who sees the whole issue as one of pure politics, envisions a 10-month solution that will need to be readdressed right before the 2012 election. 鈥淢y thesis is that they [in Congress] are reelection mode,鈥 he says.
Despite his expectation that Washington will muddle through the crisis, Roberts says he has kept his accounts in more cash than is usual. He has also moved some investors into gold, a commodity for which prices have been rising as the news ebbs and flows from Washington. The price was up more than $14 per troy ounce, to $1,601, by midafternoon Friday. 鈥淭he real danger is they do something stupid with the debt,鈥 he says.
Kleintop, too, is hedging his bets somewhat by putting some investments in gold. He reasons that if Congress and the president fail to reach an agreement on the debt ceiling, stocks would fall by 20 percent, the world economy would go into a recession, and the value of the dollar would plunge. 鈥淭he only safe haven is gold,鈥 he says.
However, he is optimistic that a solution will be reached on the debt ceiling and says he has started to invest some of his clients' cash back into the stock market.
鈥淓arnings are solid, and the soft spot in the economy seems to be getting better,鈥 he says. 鈥淣ow is the time to move back into the market but recognize there are some risks.鈥
Mr. Kotok at Cumberland Advisors is even more willing to back up his words. He鈥檚 now buying stocks of financial companies, such as banks, even though their prices have dropped because of uncertainty surrounding the debt crisis in Washington. Many banks invest in Treasury bills, so any downgrade of the US credit rating would adversely affect the banks鈥 portfolios.
Once the debt ceiling crisis is resolved, Kotok expects the stock market to rise. 鈥淲e are in an inflection point of major proportions,鈥 he says. 鈥淭he markets are being burdened by default risk, and the economy is growing slowly because of default risk.鈥 After that risk is resolved, both will start to grow, he says.
Even Davis, who advises Wall Street clients, can鈥檛 imagine the US defaulting or losing its AAA bond rating.
鈥淚 think they are going to get to edge of the cliff and decide to do something,鈥 he reasons. 鈥淢aybe they will make a deal to cut $1 trillion [in spending over time] with a promise of trillions more cuts after a commission does a report,鈥 he suggests. However, any solution that includes tax reform will be more problematic, because any changes could create a lot of losers.
鈥淭hat means half [of taxpayers] have increases and half have cuts,鈥 he says. 鈥淭hat does not sound like a politically viable solution.鈥
However, time is starting to run out. Davis, who was previously a congressional staffer, says it may be possible for the House to 鈥渃ram through legislation if the leadership wants to.鈥 But, the Senate is a different proposition, he says. 鈥淚n the Senate, passing the Ten Commandments would be hard to do in a week."