A better way to talk about guns in America
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The Senate gun legislation dealing with background checks may have met a resounding defeat a few weeks ago, but the political debate on both sides of the gun issue is far from over. And the debate over dinner tables continues. On Sunday, police say that 19 people 鈥 including two children 鈥 were shot at a Mother's Day parade in New Orleans.
Is there a way to move this conversation ahead? Is there a better way to talk about guns?
Those are questions this news organization, in partnership with聽听补苍诲听, set out to explore a couple of weeks ago. The April 11 event was set up as an evening of storytelling by three individuals with different experiences with guns, followed by small-group dialogue among roughly 60 participants who had signed up to attend.
As an event participant, by the end of a night spent talking with and listening to strangers, I had drawn a pretty clear conclusion: For most Americans, policy debates are personal. And logjams in dialogue often come from our inability to recognize the personal stories and experiences that inform our views.
What if Americans shelved the policy debate and began their individual 鈥 and national 鈥 conversations by telling those personal experiences, focusing not on who is right, but on where people are coming from? It may not necessarily change minds or translate to political compromise, but it鈥檚 a good place to start 鈥 a foundation of understanding.
Admittedly, I come to this proposition with some skepticism. I鈥檓 an editor in the Monitor鈥檚 commentary section; I follow, commission, and edit opinions on controversial issues like gun control. The divisions on most heated subjects are stark 鈥 even among seasoned, pragmatic pundits.聽
On this Thursday evening in Boston鈥檚 Back Bay, I found myself sitting next to strangers on all sides of the gun-control issue. The event started with three stories 鈥 one from a gun enthusiast, one from a suicide prevention activist, and one from a father whose son was shot and killed.
These ordinary citizens were coached to tell the stories of how they came to their stances on guns by Nabil Laoudji. Mr. Laoudji founded聽to to showcase such stories and was recently聽profiled聽in the Monitor鈥檚 鈥淧eople Making A Difference鈥 feature.
Mark Timney spoke first. He鈥檚 a gun owner and gun lover. But little else about him fits neatly into a category. He鈥檚 a white, middle-aged college professor and former journalist. He owned his first gun at the age of five and became an avid trap shooter (competitive target shooting at clay pigeons).
Adult life took him on a series of twists and turns 鈥 divorce, career changes, depression 鈥 that ultimately led him away from shooting. It wasn鈥檛 until he hit 鈥渞ock bottom鈥 that he took it up again with an almost religious 鈥渂orn again鈥 zeal, stoked by the book 鈥淶en in the Art of Archery.鈥 Rolling up his sleeve, he showed the audience a mantra tattooed in black ink across his forearm: 鈥淥ne arrow, one life.鈥
Elaine Frank then took the stage, adding dry wit and maternal candor. Hers was the only Jewish family in their cookie-cutter suburb of New York in the late 1960s. There she developed a 鈥渟evere and chronic case of Christmas envy.鈥 Moving later to Brookline, Mass., she graduated from what she called an 鈥85 percent Jewish鈥 high school.
That grounding in diverse worlds bred a bridge-building temperament 鈥 uniquely useful for what was to come in her relationship to guns. She spoke of a former Washington, D.C., neighbor who was killed in a drive-by shooting, a cousin聽who killed herself with a gun, and in her current hometown in New Hampshire, the accidental gun deaths of teenagers. Now she works with gun stores and dealers to promote firearm safety, particularly around suicide prevention.
The final speaker, Larry 鈥淏rother Lo鈥 Banks, is a black father and grandfather from a Boston neighborhood plagued with violence, high unemployment, and all the statistics that go along with urban poverty. His story began the Sunday morning he received the deafening news that a mugger shot and killed his son.
But perhaps more wrenching for the audience was the emotional wrestling he underwent 鈥渂etween wanting to get back at who killed my son鈥 and finding some sympathy鈥 for the young man who did it. He described a moment 鈥 pinned on the floor of the morgue by his brothers after he鈥檇 begun clawing at the walls 鈥 when he said he felt touched by God.
In the days after his son鈥檚 death, he couldn鈥檛 stop thinking of the perpetrator 鈥 and the environment that led him to mug and kill his son. He pleaded with his son鈥檚 friends not to retaliate. And his mission continues today: With other community leaders, he works with youth, steering them away from crime. 鈥淲hen we have victories in the streets, I say to my son, 鈥楾hat was for you, man.鈥欌
In a Q&A between the three storytellers and Laoudji, Brother Lo explained that he thinks guns are the vehicles for violence in his community, but that he doesn鈥檛 see them, alone, as the problem. The problem, he emphasized, is the lack of positive role models, the lack of opportunities for the young men he works with. The gun that belongs to the evening鈥檚 first speaker, Timney, isn鈥檛 doing anyone harm just sitting in his closet, Brother Lo says.
At this, Timney turns to him: 鈥淚 would give up my guns in a second if I thought it could bring back your son.鈥
If this had been a policy debate, Brother Lo might have just conceded a vital point to the gun proponents: Guns don鈥檛 kill people; people kill people. But this wasn鈥檛 a policy debate. Instead, two people whose backgrounds and views diverged in almost every way possible shared a moment of honesty that struck at the heart of the matter.
And their truth set the tone for the conversations the audience was to have in small groups, guided by Bob Stains, director of聽. PCP鈥橲 business聽is to train individuals and organizations to talk constructively on issues that involve differing values and views.
Mr. Stains explained the guidelines for the structured conversations we were to have: Share air time, seek to understand, refrain from attempts to persuade, ask genuine questions. Then we slid聽our chairs somewhat awkwardly to form groups of four or five strangers.
Each of us began by speaking for one, timed minute about our personal experience with guns.
One woman in my group was a graduate student, interested in public dialogue. Another聽was a mother deeply shaken by the Newtown shootings. A third was a man who had once signed up for a firearm instruction course to learn how to handle a gun so that he could commit suicide 鈥 a track he later abandoned. I offered my own varied experience with guns 鈥 family members who are gun owners and NRA members, my own work in an urban community grappling with gun violence, but no personal experience shooting a gun.
A young man named Cory was the only one in our group with extended, direct experience with guns. He prefaced his remarks by explaining that he felt out of his comfort zone. He had come prepared to debate an issue 鈥 not to share his personal story.
He wasn鈥檛 alone. The mother who was shaken by the Newtown shootings had a thick manila folder on her lap that was full of articles and 鈥渆vidence鈥 to support her stance against guns. For all her efforts 鈥渘ot to persuade,鈥 her perspective was clear.
For Cory, being forced to think about his personal experience with guns stirred some disarming self-reflection. Growing up, guns were a big part of his life. As he grew up and moved to Boston, they fell away from his experience. Within a year, he says, he鈥檇 lost the emotional connection to them. But some of his friends had not. Their interest in guns increased 鈥 and he began distancing himself from them.
When asked, he couldn鈥檛 articulate why his shift of views and friendships had happened. But he did know he was being prompted on this evening to look at his feelings in a way he hadn鈥檛 before.
I began to wonder if that was the entire point of this event. The goal wasn鈥檛 to change minds or make policy points. Rather, each of us was sharing of ourselves, collectively questioning, learning, reviewing.
After the event concluded, the members of my group continued talking. Will this really do anything to move the public discussion forward? Are we just beating around the bush by avoiding policy and sticking to polite and personal stories?
Frankly, I鈥檓 not sure. But I do know that if we had launched into a policy discussion afterward, and I had disagreed with someone鈥檚 stance, that person would not have been the faceless, amorphous 鈥渙ther side.鈥 And I might have understood better how that individual鈥檚 story had shaped their view.
Cory told us that in countries torn by conflict, researchers have found that when former enemies work and interact together, their attitudes about the other group change. This personal interaction is far more effective in changing perceptions than first trying to teach groups to change their attitudes so they can later work together.
But I wonder if there were any real 鈥渆nemies鈥 in the audience or on stage that night. Were we representative enough of the vast swath of American society 鈥 or those who hold the most extreme views on gun ownership?
Admittedly, we were a self-selecting group, but it seems the model itself 鈥 not necessarily the participants 鈥 is what gave legs to the conversation.
Not all of us are sharp debaters or moving orators. But each of us is the expert on our own personal experience. If we begin with that story, and listen to others鈥 accounts, we start from an even playing field of individual experience. It just might set the stage for something more.