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Joe Keohane grew up in Boston in the 1980s and 鈥�90s, when 鈥渟tranger danger鈥� served as a national parenting mantra to protect children from potential harm. But from watching his mom and dad, he absorbed a different life lesson about encounters with unfamiliar people.

鈥淢y parents have always talked to strangers, and I鈥檝e seen how it鈥檚 been super-enriching and exciting and fun for them,鈥� he says. 鈥淭hey鈥檙e well into their 70s, and they鈥檙e still making friends.鈥�

The example of their openness inspired Mr. Keohane as he worked on his first book, 鈥淭he Power of Strangers: The Benefits of Connecting in a Suspicious World.鈥� True to that subtitle, Mr. Keohane advances the idea that showing greater interest in our fellow unknown Americans just might remedy the country鈥檚 loneliness epidemic and mend its fractured body politic.

The veteran journalist traverses evolutionary biology, psychology, theology, and anthropology as he seeks to counter the stubborn perception of humankind as a hopeless collection of warring tribes. In reality, he writes, we belong to 鈥渁n ultra-cooperative species.鈥� He travels to Los Angeles, St. Louis, London, and Helsinki to learn from experts in the art of bonding with strangers, and armed with their advice, he sets out to turn random interactions into meaningful moments.

Mr. Keohane, a former features director at Medium, spoke to the Monitor from New York, where he lives with his wife and daughter. He discussed the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on attitudes toward strangers, the value of listening in a culture of talking, and how even fleeting conversations with passersby can reaffirm our shared humanity. This interview has been edited and condensed.听

You鈥檙e clearly fond of talking with strangers.听What effect did the pandemic lockdowns have on you?

Research has shown that it鈥檚 really beneficial to have interactions with strangers. It helps us feel like we belong to a place, helps us feel connected and less lonely and happier. So having spent the previous two years before the coronavirus randomly talking to people all the time while researching the book, I missed that sense of adventure. When you talk to strangers, you never know where the conversations are going to go. But they almost invariably go somewhere interesting and unexpected, and I really missed the loss of variety.

How did you and your fellow New Yorkers cope?

There was the initial panic where everyone just ran away from each other. But then, once people settled into the routine of living during COVID-19, you started to see people making more of an effort to raise their eyebrows and say 鈥淗i鈥� and wave, and find ways to show that they see the other person and they鈥檙e not afraid of the other person, that they鈥檙e only keeping their distance out of respect.

There鈥檚 a lot of research about what keeps us from talking to strangers, and there鈥檚 a big fear that you won鈥檛 know what to talk about. During the coronavirus, especially in New York, it bound everyone together. Everyone had this thing in common. So in one way, there was a barrier raised against interaction 鈥� you couldn鈥檛 get close to each other. But the pandemic also lowered the barrier and made for a certain intimacy that I found reassuring and inspiring. It made me feel good to see people in this extreme situation making the effort to be like, 鈥淗i, I hope we鈥檙e all going to be OK.鈥�

Even before the pandemic, there were growing concerns that relying on technology to communicate 鈥� especially among teenagers and young adults 鈥� has stunted our social skills. How much does our digital immersion contribute to an aversion to strangers?听

One of the interesting things I found was a lot of psychologists who teach in colleges and universities reported that they see students who react to the prospect of talking to strangers with panic and terror. They鈥檙e so accustomed to conducting all their communications through digital platforms that they鈥檝e lost a key social skill. There鈥檚 also a mental health component. Loneliness rates, which are sky-high for everybody right now, are highest among 18- to 22-year-olds, and the hypothesis of researchers is that it鈥檚 because they鈥檙e not having in-person contact as much as other generations did.

So technology definitely plays a large part, and I don鈥檛 think it鈥檚 specific to young people. The entire society is seeing its social skills erode. The good news is that the research shows that these interactions tend to be much easier and much more positive than we expect 鈥� we expect them to go very badly, we expect to be rejected. But by and large, people are receptive to interacting with strangers. Once they start having conversations, they find they enjoy it.

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What are basic ways we can start to听rebuild our social aptitude?

First of all, pay attention. Look at people, notice people, think about what鈥檚 happening around you, take your earbuds out. That will open you up to a world of interaction.听

In those interactions we have that are scripted 鈥� the ones where we say 鈥淗ow you doin鈥�?鈥� and the other person says 鈥淕ood, how you doin鈥�? 鈥� no information is exchanged, we鈥檝e not connected. So when you find yourself in those situations, just be sincere and be specific. Maybe you notice something or there鈥檚 something you鈥檙e both doing 鈥� maybe you鈥檙e waiting in line 鈥� and you can comment on it. Just making a statement about something you鈥檙e both experiencing simultaneously is really effective.听

You write about approaching conversations with strangers as 鈥渁 collaboration, not a competition.鈥� What do we gain if we don鈥檛 try to control the exchange?

When you have to follow the conversation wherever it goes, the benefit is that it makes it impossible to pretend that this is not a complex person in front of you. It robs you of the luxury of simplifying the life and the motivation of others. That鈥檚 healthy, and that leads to wisdom and helps people be more productive citizens of democracy.

So many problems we鈥檙e facing are dehumanization problems 鈥� partisanship, transphobia, racism 鈥� and only through contact can we alleviate dehumanization. You can read a lot of books, you can listen to podcasts 鈥� that鈥檒l help. But the research shows us there鈥檚 nothing more effective for reducing dehumanization than in-person contact. And it鈥檚 because this person you鈥檙e talking to is going to come at you with their full complexity, and you have to deal with the fact that their reality might be different from your reality.

You point out that one key to talking with strangers is, in fact, listening to them. On a broader level, how could that help reduce the country鈥檚 political tensions?

There is research that shows the feeling of not being listened to can lead to extreme political beliefs. And when you hear how people who feel estranged and alienated from the culture talk about their relation to the whole [country], the point that comes up over and over again is, 鈥淣o one鈥檚 listening to me.鈥� So demonstrating that you鈥檙e listening can turn some of the heat down. It also takes away a lot of your blind spots if you do it with enough curiosity and openness.听That鈥檚 valuable, especially in a time when partisans have turned it into a virtue to not listen.

You make the case that human beings, for all the havoc they鈥檝e inflicted on each other throughout time, have figured out how to more or less get along. What solace can we take from that in this polarized moment?

I think there鈥檚 a pessimistic reading of human nature as xenophobic.听There鈥檚 this idea that we were small groups of people who hated and feared strangers throughout our existence until, by some fluke, we ended up together in cities. The reality is a lot more complicated. Civilization would never have happened if our default mode was xenophobia.

I鈥檓 looking out the window of my office in New York, where there are 10 million people, and people are exchanging greetings and helping each other and not bumping into each other. This is a very cooperative species, and it gets a bad rap for being xenophobic and savage. It certainly can be those things, but I think you can make a better argument that our default mode is cooperation. When you come to understand that none of this 鈥� modern civilization 鈥� happens without an extraordinary capacity for talking to strangers and working with strangers and living with strangers, then you understand the power of that aspect of our personality.

Does that give you hope that Americans can bridge their differences?

Putting two strangers in a room is not going to solve all the really sticky issues. But what it will do is show that we can have a conversation, we might kind of like each other, maybe we can fix some potholes together. And then maybe after we fix some potholes, we can talk about something else we can work on. We have to rebuild trust. It鈥檚 a lot of work, and as a nation, we have to decide if we鈥檙e going to do it. I鈥檓 not sure if it will be done. But I鈥檓 optimistic it can be done.